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Rick The Political Gardener's avatar

There is a delusion at the heart of Westminster, and it's because they are taking advice from people who don't understand Ai, Tech or in fact US Banks aka Vulture Funds. Starmer is far far far worse and clueless than I ever thought he could be.

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Dickdastadly's avatar

Barely mentioned in all this AI chatter are the "Data centres" that are required, they need VAST amounts of electricity AND water for the cooling systems. The National Grid has no idea were these Data centres are to be located, but probably in the South East, along with the bulk of the population, it is also the area that has the least amount of Electrical generation, so is unable to plan exactly how to reinforce the supply system, some may have there own private supply system, but would need back up from NG. The same can be said for the water companies.

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

It takes a high level of delusion to believe that AI is the answer, just as it takes a high level of delusion to believe that neolieralism works after 46 years of ever-increasing inequality. It would not surprise me one bit to hear this lot talking about magic beans and the power of thinking our way to national success. It's actually scarier than the cynical grifting of Tory Reform.

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Archangel's avatar

I think that the next tech bro struggle is all about who gets to own the magic beans.There are some front runners placed in the White House with the ownership of networks and platforms but not the software that will control and guide the user architecture. A fully fledged outsourcing of all public services to one of these tech bro princes is on the cards but that might not fly in Europe where big tech is held in more suspicion.Who knows if US techno fascism will take a hold on the freedom lovers of Europe but at least now QAnon has a real manifestation of the deep state: it's not called the public administration but it is quoted on the S&P!

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David Payne's avatar

AI is costing our economy £millions and soon £billions in lost production.

Merely to make large companies more money.

This wastes so much of persons time fighting to get past it to speak to the human being that can perform the function required.

Consequently, it took me 4 x 12 hour days to resolve banking issues that could have been sorted out in a couple of hours without their interference.

AI is the most horrendous addition to everyone's overworked lives.

STOP THIS AI INSANITY!

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Kevin Pettitt's avatar

All of the solutions that are being considered,AI,electric vehicles,are enormously power hungry. We don’t have the infrastructure required to meet these demands. Also how is the lost tax revenue going to be replaced. Are all the office personnel going to get jobs laying bricks and picking cabbages?

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Jean Marie Wilson-Main's avatar

I don’t want to save Rachel Reeves. I don’t want to save any of them and the lot of them talking crap just makes me angry. They seem to be suffering from some sort of mass delusion and I want to know what it is so that those of us still living in reality can avoid it.

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Jonathan Maher's avatar

Tulip Mania

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Kat Brown's avatar

This government (and the previous one) are set on selling AI to the public using any angle they can. Deflects attention from the proposed use in public services and the children's database. Within 10 years a lot of those children will be adults and I don't see any government giving up that level of surveillance just because a child turns 18.

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Paul Cormican's avatar

As someone who struggled with basic maths, science and physics at school this AI thing is baffling to me. Will it make a driver get deliveries done quicker? A packer on a food production line pack any faster? Shorten the shopping lines at the supermarket? I really doubt it. Thirty years back the football team I played on had a number of tech graduates who were convinced the Internet and automation would render us all redundant. Didn't happen. Labour are betting the farm, or what's left of it, all on red. Hope for their sakes, and ours, it works.

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yiayia's avatar

I'm assuming AI includes robotics too.

If machines can be made to dance, see video link, they can be made to e.g. lay bricks, stack shelves, pick fruit and vegetables etc.

https://youtu.be/fn3KWM1kuAw?si=nomslXRjg8-RMSrL

What happens to those workers?

Are we entering a technological nightmare?

Starmers, Reeves, and Co don't care, as long as they get their slice of pie.

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Liz Thompson's avatar

It's not a delusion I share. But then I can't share the rest of their deluded ideas either. Pity they can't come up with something the ordinary folk would actually like them to do, isn't it? A for asinine, I for ideas.

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Frances Kay's avatar

So true. Sadly, this government is composed of people who aren't very bright.

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Andrew McGregor's avatar

There is a downside to AI in the amount of computer power and hence electricity it needs.

I understand that the planned data centre in Cambois/ Blyth Northumberland will have 10 data halls, each consuming 70 MW. This is on the site of a 1960’s coal powerstation that generated 60 MW.

Makes you think!

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Bryan Luther's avatar

The motive isn't to balance the books through growth, it never has been. That is a cover to justify their policies that ensure the continuing redistribution of money to the rich. Starmer and crew are neoliberal cuckoos and Labour as a party of the working class (and even the middle class) is no more. The country needs a new socialist party.

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Lee Bennett's avatar

I boldly predict that they also have ‘Crypto’ up their sleeve and will wait for the right moment to hang ‘future growth’ on that too.

DEI + Foreigners x AI + Crypto = Magic Beans For The Low of Intellect

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Motely Motson's avatar

The idiocy of the current administration seems to be exponentially increasing week by week

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GS-z-14-1's avatar

‘…everybody in the world, in ten years’ time, is going to be more productive than the most productive person in the world today.’

Who will purchase all this product, Herr Starmer?

How will capitalism recover investments?

What will happen to wages in all this?

By the gods!

How did England come to put you in charge?!

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