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James's avatar

It was Labour under Tony Blair who actually introduced the 2 child policy

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Will Burke's avatar

No it wasn’t, it was Cameron and Osborne in 2015 (coming into effect in 2017). If you have evidence that it was Blair, please let us see it.

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Shasa N's avatar

Not sure if they're trying to appeal to key voters or key donors. I suspect it's the latter.

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Archangel's avatar

Asking adult voters who limit their family sizes to two children to subsidise other adults' choices is not good politics. Starmer hasn't not quite grasped what plays well with a floating electorate and sits precariously between two stools of social democracy and Conservatism of the old school. He can't expand the size of the state because the economy is in a weak state and he can't counter populist memes about devouring gays or ethnic minorities.He has a hard core of 22% of Labour voters which is similar to the Tory party's share of core voters.The remaining 12 or 14 % needed to win an election depends upon voter sentiments.When people feel secure they are more likely to think of others and support a socially liberal outlook but we are in a period of declining living standards and disproportionate taxation paid by low waged workers. Taxing the wealthy more may help in any social equity messages but really any surplus revenues have to go towards repaying the huge interest on UK accrued debt. Giving more to larger families or to international aid doesn't resonate well with the electorate.Labour being out of office for 14 years or 18 years before that just makes things worse for the ordinary citizen as priorities are skewed even more towards the rich or overseas 'expatriates'.

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Tom's avatar
Apr 22Edited

The high interest rate set by the Bank of England paying banks interest on QE payments which were to prevent them from collapsing. Real necessary...

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Archangel's avatar

One more conundrum for Rachel Reeves to address. Given the kidglove treatment on Banker's bonuses recently I wouldn't expect any shift in Starmer's nicely does it approach.

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Davy Ro's avatar

Starmer & his gang of parasites are a Labour government in name only. He is a dyed in the wool globalist rat. Exactly the same as his hero Blair is. The Tories are the Tories, they have never hid the fact they're a about bankers & big corporations. It's a Uniparty we've not had democracy in our country for decades. The only choice we've had are 1 bunch of globalist vermin or another bunch of them. The Davos crowd tell you exactly what their policies are. But the masses aren't interested in what's in front of their faces. Until they become victims of this rigged scheme. That's the I'm right Jack crowd for you right there. Keep their heads buried in the sand. Until it's them who fall victim of the globalist scams. Starmer had no interest in the British publics interests. When the masses realise none of these people serve us, like they're employed to do. We might get somewhere. But we've got no chance while the masses still believe the bullshit they're being fed every day. Why is it our country is falling apart financially, we can afford to give untold amounts of our tax payers money. To the most corrupt country in Europe all unaudited? Yet not a single politician or member of main stream media is asking this question? Ukraine has never been an allie of Britain, up until 2019 the BBC & other media were reporting on how dangerous the Facist extremists in Ukraine were. Now it's all Zelensky is Churchill & Putin is the Devil blah blah blah. Let's give them more billions. I still can't get my head around how many intelligent people have fell for this bullshit. Probably the same amount who fell for the Covid bullshit. We are our own worst enemies. We allow these corrupt lying vermin away with their crimes every single day.

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Jenifer Devlin's avatar

Yes, Starmer has no interest in the people of Britain. He’s got his eyes on Trump, whose policies he increasingly apes. He’s not interested in electoral popularity, which makes his strategy hard to read. When 70-80% of the population, according to the polls, want public services returned to public ownership, he sets his face against it. Like Trump, he actually courts unpopularity. He can live with grotesque levels of poverty and housing stress, for which there are solutions he refuses to contemplate. He’s clearly going to privatise the NHS, a move he knows will be unpopular, and he must know that a large proportion of the elderly, sick and disabled openly charge him with wanting to kill them off. The young are unhappy, the old are frightened and most of those in between are too stressed out just trying to keep things together to be aware of a larger picture. And what is that larger picture? What is Starmer’s real strategy?

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The Educated Voter's avatar

Wow we here in America really know how to export all the worst shit as possible on to the world don’t we?

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Davy Ro's avatar

You mean like Covid 19?

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The Educated Voter's avatar

Exactly like that. Now it’s measles, so all of the people professing or trying to leave will get a rude awakening sooner rather than later when the countries we’re professing we’d leave to no longer want Americans living there or even coming as tourists because we may bring decease and fascist ideology to their shores.

The American arrogance that were still welcomed everywhere we want to go is unraveling and it hasn’t crossed the majority of the people here’s minds that they won’t be able to get a visa to travel there.

Anyone can say “well don’t blame me, I didn’t vote for Trump that’s why I want to leave” but since America now has the reputation of being populated with liars and fascist sympathisers, the “refugees” will start getting turned away.

Who wants Americans overwhelming their healthcare systems because theirs is “free”, who wants Americans who might try and influence people to overturn their gun laws, who wants Americans who sat back and let Trump get away with a coup.

Americans are going to get a dose of our own medicine and they aren’t going to like it!

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Davy Ro's avatar

When I was young every kid got measles. It was no big deal one winter Chicken Pox, next winter measles. But I do get your point totally. These corporations in their list of greed. Along with their bought & paid for politicians will be the death of us all.

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Liz Thompson's avatar

If you are comfortably off, and with a conscience you can overlook (or don't possess), it's easy to say let the buggers starve.

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Andy Cochrane's avatar

We're doomed if things continue as they are with this so-called Labour government.

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