It’s astounding that the soldiers carried out killing human beings after baiting them with food and then complained about it to the media. Were they complaining or bragging? In any event, they have an obligation to disobey illegal orders so, not having done so, they are as guilty as their commanders, the generals, the politicians, and the citizens of Israel who ordered and support these crimes against humanity.
I expect that if they refused the order they would either be in prison or dead. It would be nice if the IDF let soldiers disobey illegal or immoral orders but everything Israel has done from its founding and everything the Zionists did before and since, indicates they care nothing for legalities or morals.
Of course they were. To them, the Palestians are Amalek, who God ordered the Israelis to kill every last man, woman and child (as if a loving God would kill his own creations). This despite that the Palestians have got 80% of the DNA of the ancient Israelites and the European Jews only 20%.
Neither of the Western States will ever object, let alone interfere, with these horrific Nazi crimes. They have been doing the same to other peoples as well. Each time they say "war" they mean massacring civilians. There is no way to say "but crimes in Palestine surpass all of that" because Western attitude that some people are Untermenschen and must be reduced to beyond animal, bare skeleton crawling on the ground, is very well spread and dominant. This is how the Western elites and liberals think, and this is the reason why Zionism was born in the first place and Israel was permitted to be established. By giving Zionists full impunity (by will or by blackmail or by bribes) they feel empowered themselves. If one group of people is allowed to do THAT to other human beings, the whole paradigm of governing the citizenry in the West becomes a paradigm of containing the cattle and suppressing humanity. Israel is a testing ground for the West. What can be done to humans. If this machine is not stopped, BOTH in Israel AND in the 5-Eyes and EU, it will spread much further than Palestine.
And only sane countries like Iran can stop them. Others are complicit. Have always been. It is their own approach too.
i don’t disagree re israel but iran is far from “sane”. let’s not pretend they’re not committing atrocities against women children and lgbtqia people in iran.
just because the state of israel is evil doesn’t give a pass to their brutal enemies.
in my view there is absolutely no difference between the actions of these monsters and those of the Wehrmach and the SS in occupied Europe and the partnership of the UK, the US and Europe makes us all complicity in these atrocities.
I heaved a sigh and found I believed it. Again. This has happened before. In other wars. Maybe they are backtracking through guilt. Or fear they are losing. Or fear the current government is losing. Or because they know too many people think they did wrong, people they know, people who were or even are friends. It can happen. I hope if it's true they tell the UN. I hope they tell the journalists and their own judges. And confess it to their families. And may they find some sense of the wrong they have done and some way back from the folly, the evil, the horror of it all.
No teeth Keith will never challenge israel, his rise to authority was funded by them, even putins rent boy arson attack warnings aren’t enough to make two tier kier condemn genocide or stop arms profits.
We know from the Nuremberg trials that “just following orders” is not a defence against charges of crimes against humanity. No serviceman anywhere has an obligation to obey any order that he believes to be in contravention of international law.
Those weaklings "only following orders" should only have the choice of hanging, electric chair, shooting or gas chamber. The more lenient they choose should then mean they get the most vile. Live for killing, get punished for killings because these felons have killed many more than just one or two with their bombs from tanks, planes and ships and also by machine guns and rapid fire rifles. Then they have the snipers who deliberately shoot children in the head - did they have someone lying behind them telling them they have to shoot this child or that one? No, they chose to kill those beautiful children because they could.
Crying now is cannot accepted. You committed the crime, you take the punishment. Which, if it were up to me, would be to drop all available bombs in one run to obliterate Israhell from existence once and for all.
Having watched this annihilation since before the current genocide/ holocaust that actually started before 1948, it's only fair that they be stopped permanently from ever even thinking about trying it on any other people.
Agree 100%. Turning refugee food centres into arbitrary kill zones for a turkey shoot is the lowest act of depravity by an already depraved and FASCIST Israeli regime and state. If this were Burma or Sudan you might JUST get some coverage in the media, and condemnation from government (although the recent posting of war crimes committed by the Afrika Corps, formerly Wagner, in Mali have ALSO been met with catatonic silence). Israel as ever gets a free pass, any criticism of this Zionist filth is anti-Semitism and of course Starmer is up to his neck in it.
The entity known as "Israel" and its leaders become more and more depraved every day.
It’s astounding that the soldiers carried out killing human beings after baiting them with food and then complained about it to the media. Were they complaining or bragging? In any event, they have an obligation to disobey illegal orders so, not having done so, they are as guilty as their commanders, the generals, the politicians, and the citizens of Israel who ordered and support these crimes against humanity.
It could be that the soldiers who reported having orders to shoot were not the ones who carried out the order.
I expect that if they refused the order they would either be in prison or dead. It would be nice if the IDF let soldiers disobey illegal or immoral orders but everything Israel has done from its founding and everything the Zionists did before and since, indicates they care nothing for legalities or morals.
Of course they were. To them, the Palestians are Amalek, who God ordered the Israelis to kill every last man, woman and child (as if a loving God would kill his own creations). This despite that the Palestians have got 80% of the DNA of the ancient Israelites and the European Jews only 20%.
with less inbreeding.
Neither of the Western States will ever object, let alone interfere, with these horrific Nazi crimes. They have been doing the same to other peoples as well. Each time they say "war" they mean massacring civilians. There is no way to say "but crimes in Palestine surpass all of that" because Western attitude that some people are Untermenschen and must be reduced to beyond animal, bare skeleton crawling on the ground, is very well spread and dominant. This is how the Western elites and liberals think, and this is the reason why Zionism was born in the first place and Israel was permitted to be established. By giving Zionists full impunity (by will or by blackmail or by bribes) they feel empowered themselves. If one group of people is allowed to do THAT to other human beings, the whole paradigm of governing the citizenry in the West becomes a paradigm of containing the cattle and suppressing humanity. Israel is a testing ground for the West. What can be done to humans. If this machine is not stopped, BOTH in Israel AND in the 5-Eyes and EU, it will spread much further than Palestine.
And only sane countries like Iran can stop them. Others are complicit. Have always been. It is their own approach too.
i don’t disagree re israel but iran is far from “sane”. let’s not pretend they’re not committing atrocities against women children and lgbtqia people in iran.
just because the state of israel is evil doesn’t give a pass to their brutal enemies.
in my view there is absolutely no difference between the actions of these monsters and those of the Wehrmach and the SS in occupied Europe and the partnership of the UK, the US and Europe makes us all complicity in these atrocities.
There must be justice.This cannot whitewashed.
“just following orders” didn’t work for nazis and it’s not gonna work for the fascist soldiers from israel.
I heaved a sigh and found I believed it. Again. This has happened before. In other wars. Maybe they are backtracking through guilt. Or fear they are losing. Or fear the current government is losing. Or because they know too many people think they did wrong, people they know, people who were or even are friends. It can happen. I hope if it's true they tell the UN. I hope they tell the journalists and their own judges. And confess it to their families. And may they find some sense of the wrong they have done and some way back from the folly, the evil, the horror of it all.
No teeth Keith will never challenge israel, his rise to authority was funded by them, even putins rent boy arson attack warnings aren’t enough to make two tier kier condemn genocide or stop arms profits.
I'm sure Starmer gets paid his PM salary in shekels.
We know from the Nuremberg trials that “just following orders” is not a defence against charges of crimes against humanity. No serviceman anywhere has an obligation to obey any order that he believes to be in contravention of international law.
Those weaklings "only following orders" should only have the choice of hanging, electric chair, shooting or gas chamber. The more lenient they choose should then mean they get the most vile. Live for killing, get punished for killings because these felons have killed many more than just one or two with their bombs from tanks, planes and ships and also by machine guns and rapid fire rifles. Then they have the snipers who deliberately shoot children in the head - did they have someone lying behind them telling them they have to shoot this child or that one? No, they chose to kill those beautiful children because they could.
Crying now is cannot accepted. You committed the crime, you take the punishment. Which, if it were up to me, would be to drop all available bombs in one run to obliterate Israhell from existence once and for all.
Having watched this annihilation since before the current genocide/ holocaust that actually started before 1948, it's only fair that they be stopped permanently from ever even thinking about trying it on any other people.
Agree 100%. Turning refugee food centres into arbitrary kill zones for a turkey shoot is the lowest act of depravity by an already depraved and FASCIST Israeli regime and state. If this were Burma or Sudan you might JUST get some coverage in the media, and condemnation from government (although the recent posting of war crimes committed by the Afrika Corps, formerly Wagner, in Mali have ALSO been met with catatonic silence). Israel as ever gets a free pass, any criticism of this Zionist filth is anti-Semitism and of course Starmer is up to his neck in it.