Please correct me if I’m wrong. I understood there was to be an increase in state pension which effectively equates to the heating allowance. Secondly one wonders whose at fault when one lives in an inadequately insulated home.
Yeah that really sucks. Been there. This original thread though includes „passing property on to children „, „lived there all their lives „. My thoughts are that either the owner over years could insulate, or the children could invest. Nora
1. There was no “increase in state pension which effectively equates to the heating allowance.” There was an increase in line with INFLATION, not the Heating Allowance. 2. It’s disgusting to blame pensioners for living in their homes, that they worked their whole lives to pay for, feel safe there, want to die in their familiar surroundings and want to pass it onto their children. Then there’s the problem that it can take years to sell a house, or sometimes there are no buyers at all. The pensioners now are the last of the War (WWII) generation, is this how you’d treat them?
I'll correct you because you are indeed wrong. There is to be an increase in the state pension to keep up with inflation. The only reason the winter fuel payment was introduced at all was because the UK is too mean to pay the sort of pension that other European countries somehow manage to afford. And living in an inadequately insulated home may well be the result of poverty. But perhaps you are one of those who think that poverty is the fault of the poor? The only thing they seem to be able to produce is children so - like Jonathan Swift - perhaps you think they should eat any children over the 2 child cap?
David, please just think before posting such stuff.
Interesting information John and J-Pat. Thanks. So. First J-Pat‘s total attitude and post is inflammatory and avoids some key facts. There are other sources of support for those in need. Secondly I am 1 of the pensioners (1950). Both my Father and I found ways to improve our miserably built properties to retain heat. Meandering on about passing on a residential property to one’s children ? Let the said children invest in insulation, solar whatever instead of tv‘s, booze n fags. We had none of the latter nor a car or fitted carpet and often zero Christmas but strived to improve our lot.
You are inflammatory. Even if theres an increase thats for inflation so they are no better off to cope with the price rises in October for bills and this warm home alliwance taken away. Dont worry they took it away from us disabled 2 years ago. I nearly died last winter when my first of 4 chest infections hit. But do t worry Dave the rave only thinks of himself.
Whats the k value of your insulation? We can have -25 and require very little heating. Right now its 14 and hot water is 50. just from sunshine. Free energy
Worst of all is what Labour don't say, which is that the "black hole" is the direct result of 45 years' tax evasion on the part of the richest. There's plenty of money, but it's been stolen from public coffers and is stashed offshore. Neoliberal boy Keir won't touch that.
Britain's media class is as owned by the US Empire as America's is. All you have to do in order to see that is to follow the money. In the BBC's case, it's super easy.
Agreed. We are bought and sold for the gold of the latter-day US 'robber barons'. They seem to be able to buy anything and everyone. They even 'own' the 'science' and the truth.
Whilst we’re on the subject of lying; The DWP last night at 9pm released an “Impact Assessment” that WAS carried out on the stopping of Winter Fuel Allowance for put to 99% of pensioners. You know, the kind of impact assessment Starmer said he “didn’t carry out as it’s not a legal requirement” and that there wasn’t an assessment “on my desk”. Both assertions of course are weasel words; HE probably didn’t carry it out and it’s plausible deniability that it was never “on his desk”, which doesn’t mean he never saw one somewhere else. He’s suck a snake.
He's a shit liar and just a shit in general. Red flag was when he met Biden as PM and he returned saying something like Biden was on top form and sharp. Lies. Gaslighting.
"Either he’s blackmailing doctors into accepting privatisation reforms by saying the NHS will get no new money, or he’s investing the money saved from impoverishing pensioners into the NHS. It’s literally impossible for both things to be true."
Well not really. Because he is clearly 'investing' the savings in the private healthcare companies that sponsored him. But this whole 'black hole' claim is complete nonsense. How about a bit of 'quantitative easing'?
It seems to me that this is all about getting rid of all non means tested benefits and pensions so that government has control over people's spending. We are all reduced to complete dependence on the state so all our spending can be constantly monitored and approved. At the slightest excuse, such benefits can be withdrawn and the claimant portrayed as a cheat.
But all the billions in subsidies and kick backs given to the rich - who cares about those?
If Starmer had a single speck of decency and humanity he would raise the level of the state pension to make all these virtue signalling bits of so-called charity unnecessary. Other countries can do it, but somehow not the UK. It's time for a maximum wage. I suggest nobody needs more than £100,000 a year at the max. All income above that should be taxed at 100% That would more than fill his corrupt black hole.
Sir Keir Starmer seems to me no better than that other well-kent Labour MP from the last century, Sir Oswald Mosley
Kier Starmer is serving his 3 paymasters and only them. The 3 are the Trilateral Commission, Israel and the Rich donors who fund his inner circle. He will never serve the people who voted for him. Politicians like him are EVERYTHING that is wrong with the western world. He should be arrested for treason as a foreign agent seeing as 2 of his 3 backers aren't British
I thought it was obvious that Starmer is a terminal liar and was surprised to discover during the election that a large number of people believed every word he said. I’ve now heard, it’s gossip only but may well turn out to happen, that he’s thinking of dropping other benefits pensioners get. I don’t believe what they’re saying about the state pension, I’m afraid, I think they’ll drop the connection with inflation and whine they haven’t any more money.
Please correct me if I’m wrong. I understood there was to be an increase in state pension which effectively equates to the heating allowance. Secondly one wonders whose at fault when one lives in an inadequately insulated home.
Yeah that really sucks. Been there. This original thread though includes „passing property on to children „, „lived there all their lives „. My thoughts are that either the owner over years could insulate, or the children could invest. Nora
1. There was no “increase in state pension which effectively equates to the heating allowance.” There was an increase in line with INFLATION, not the Heating Allowance. 2. It’s disgusting to blame pensioners for living in their homes, that they worked their whole lives to pay for, feel safe there, want to die in their familiar surroundings and want to pass it onto their children. Then there’s the problem that it can take years to sell a house, or sometimes there are no buyers at all. The pensioners now are the last of the War (WWII) generation, is this how you’d treat them?
I'll correct you because you are indeed wrong. There is to be an increase in the state pension to keep up with inflation. The only reason the winter fuel payment was introduced at all was because the UK is too mean to pay the sort of pension that other European countries somehow manage to afford. And living in an inadequately insulated home may well be the result of poverty. But perhaps you are one of those who think that poverty is the fault of the poor? The only thing they seem to be able to produce is children so - like Jonathan Swift - perhaps you think they should eat any children over the 2 child cap?
David, please just think before posting such stuff.
Interesting information John and J-Pat. Thanks. So. First J-Pat‘s total attitude and post is inflammatory and avoids some key facts. There are other sources of support for those in need. Secondly I am 1 of the pensioners (1950). Both my Father and I found ways to improve our miserably built properties to retain heat. Meandering on about passing on a residential property to one’s children ? Let the said children invest in insulation, solar whatever instead of tv‘s, booze n fags. We had none of the latter nor a car or fitted carpet and often zero Christmas but strived to improve our lot.
You are inflammatory. Even if theres an increase thats for inflation so they are no better off to cope with the price rises in October for bills and this warm home alliwance taken away. Dont worry they took it away from us disabled 2 years ago. I nearly died last winter when my first of 4 chest infections hit. But do t worry Dave the rave only thinks of himself.
Oh and i dont drink and dont smoke. Just disgusting comment.
The supposed increase in state pension is in April 2025, by which time 400,000 pensioners may well have died of hypothermia.
Wow. I have a lung tumour. I have an insulated home. When its minus 2 outside that makes very little difference.
Whats the k value of your insulation? We can have -25 and require very little heating. Right now its 14 and hot water is 50. just from sunshine. Free energy
Worst of all is what Labour don't say, which is that the "black hole" is the direct result of 45 years' tax evasion on the part of the richest. There's plenty of money, but it's been stolen from public coffers and is stashed offshore. Neoliberal boy Keir won't touch that.
Britain's media class is as owned by the US Empire as America's is. All you have to do in order to see that is to follow the money. In the BBC's case, it's super easy.
Agreed. We are bought and sold for the gold of the latter-day US 'robber barons'. They seem to be able to buy anything and everyone. They even 'own' the 'science' and the truth.
Whilst we’re on the subject of lying; The DWP last night at 9pm released an “Impact Assessment” that WAS carried out on the stopping of Winter Fuel Allowance for put to 99% of pensioners. You know, the kind of impact assessment Starmer said he “didn’t carry out as it’s not a legal requirement” and that there wasn’t an assessment “on my desk”. Both assertions of course are weasel words; HE probably didn’t carry it out and it’s plausible deniability that it was never “on his desk”, which doesn’t mean he never saw one somewhere else. He’s suck a snake.
He's a shit liar and just a shit in general. Red flag was when he met Biden as PM and he returned saying something like Biden was on top form and sharp. Lies. Gaslighting.
"Either he’s blackmailing doctors into accepting privatisation reforms by saying the NHS will get no new money, or he’s investing the money saved from impoverishing pensioners into the NHS. It’s literally impossible for both things to be true."
Well not really. Because he is clearly 'investing' the savings in the private healthcare companies that sponsored him. But this whole 'black hole' claim is complete nonsense. How about a bit of 'quantitative easing'?
It seems to me that this is all about getting rid of all non means tested benefits and pensions so that government has control over people's spending. We are all reduced to complete dependence on the state so all our spending can be constantly monitored and approved. At the slightest excuse, such benefits can be withdrawn and the claimant portrayed as a cheat.
But all the billions in subsidies and kick backs given to the rich - who cares about those?
If Starmer had a single speck of decency and humanity he would raise the level of the state pension to make all these virtue signalling bits of so-called charity unnecessary. Other countries can do it, but somehow not the UK. It's time for a maximum wage. I suggest nobody needs more than £100,000 a year at the max. All income above that should be taxed at 100% That would more than fill his corrupt black hole.
Sir Keir Starmer seems to me no better than that other well-kent Labour MP from the last century, Sir Oswald Mosley
Kier Starmer is serving his 3 paymasters and only them. The 3 are the Trilateral Commission, Israel and the Rich donors who fund his inner circle. He will never serve the people who voted for him. Politicians like him are EVERYTHING that is wrong with the western world. He should be arrested for treason as a foreign agent seeing as 2 of his 3 backers aren't British
I agree totally with that statement.
FELICES Y GRACIAS
FELICES Y GRACIAS
I thought it was obvious that Starmer is a terminal liar and was surprised to discover during the election that a large number of people believed every word he said. I’ve now heard, it’s gossip only but may well turn out to happen, that he’s thinking of dropping other benefits pensioners get. I don’t believe what they’re saying about the state pension, I’m afraid, I think they’ll drop the connection with inflation and whine they haven’t any more money.
Is it me or is the last word in the article's title superfluous?
it is beyond sickening and the lack of acountability is staggering.