The timing of Gordon Brown's editorial about countering rather than appeasing the extreme-right is extraordinary given Keir Starmer's weekend trip to Italy to suck up to the neo-fascist Georgia Meloni
I think you may find that "being the man who goes down in history for having handed power to an extreme-right coalition of the Tories and Faragists at the next general election" is PRECISELY what the entire purpose of the Starmer phase of continuity-Establishment power is all about.
In which case, Gordon Brown is only providing some kind of 'cover' or 'illusion' of ideological difference. If they are part of the Establishment, they ARE fascists. Just that some of them disguise themselves in order to fool the electorate into thinking there is such a thing as 'politics' or 'competing political parties' (an electorate who, unfortunately, do fall for it all the time).
The real question is whether this deliberate paving the way/enabling the final arrival of British fascism has been decided by the Establishment to happen in 5 years, or in 10 years. The way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if it's 5 years. They may have originally intended 10, but now I think they believe can get away with doing it in 5, especially given the total lack of any genuine opposition. Like with this new 'Collective' thing and Corbyn apparently getting involved. It's 4 years too late for all that, you bunch of political imbeciles...
Anybody with the autocratic instincts and ability to lie the way Starmer does absolutely cannot be trusted, specially with the interests of the poor in society.
I agree that politics as it is currently being done both here and elsewhere in the "West" is performative and stage-managed. Fascism is here to protect ruling class financial interests, plain and simple, just as it was in the early 20th century.
Better "late" than not at all. If they drive the Collective project hard enough, they might be able to make Starmer look over his shoulder the other way; and shove Farage and his clown car back to the margins again.
Remember, the right offers no future whatsoever; + returning their selectively-edited version of the past is impossible. Young Britain knows this; + only left ideas offer them any way forward that isn't gruel or delusion.
So enough fussing about when it "should have" happened, just make it happen.
I can sympathise with your position, for sure. I do understand the ‘better late than never’ idea - but my concern is that if these people had the political nous to fight from the left then they would’ve done it years ago. The fact that it’s taken them till now to do what should’ve been obvious tells me that they simply don’t have the political intelligence to lead.
Also, I do in fact think it really is too late. Even if there is a viable socialist option at the next election we have seen how MSM propaganda and smear tactics can be effective. And if that doesn’t work, there’s always just vote rigging.
So, much as I would like to have some hope, I am finding it increasingly harder to have such hope…
The Far Right is always in the business of defending the "free" market, hence their support from billionaires. Starmer is a neoliberal through and through and completely signed up to this.
SIR Keir is the man who (very intentionally) hijacked the Labour Party, to (very intentionally) turn it into a second Tory Party.
SIR Keir is the man who pledged to funnel British taxpayers' money into the pockets of Italian Fascists, for the express purpose of violent racism... and pledged to "learn" how to be the same as those Fascists.
What on Earth makes you think he would recoil, AT ALL, from being "The man who goes down in history for having handed power to an extreme-right coalition of the Tories and Faragists at the next general election," let alone consider that outcome a "danger?"
Obvious and depressing in equal measure to those on the political left. More importantly is the betrayal of ordinary citizens that were hoping against hope that Starmer and the PLP would deliver for the those who voted them in. An illusion of choice is no choice at all.
I think you may find that "being the man who goes down in history for having handed power to an extreme-right coalition of the Tories and Faragists at the next general election" is PRECISELY what the entire purpose of the Starmer phase of continuity-Establishment power is all about.
In which case, Gordon Brown is only providing some kind of 'cover' or 'illusion' of ideological difference. If they are part of the Establishment, they ARE fascists. Just that some of them disguise themselves in order to fool the electorate into thinking there is such a thing as 'politics' or 'competing political parties' (an electorate who, unfortunately, do fall for it all the time).
The real question is whether this deliberate paving the way/enabling the final arrival of British fascism has been decided by the Establishment to happen in 5 years, or in 10 years. The way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if it's 5 years. They may have originally intended 10, but now I think they believe can get away with doing it in 5, especially given the total lack of any genuine opposition. Like with this new 'Collective' thing and Corbyn apparently getting involved. It's 4 years too late for all that, you bunch of political imbeciles...
Well said, I've often discussed this with anyone who would listen. Sadly most ignored me.
Anybody with the autocratic instincts and ability to lie the way Starmer does absolutely cannot be trusted, specially with the interests of the poor in society.
I agree that politics as it is currently being done both here and elsewhere in the "West" is performative and stage-managed. Fascism is here to protect ruling class financial interests, plain and simple, just as it was in the early 20th century.
Better "late" than not at all. If they drive the Collective project hard enough, they might be able to make Starmer look over his shoulder the other way; and shove Farage and his clown car back to the margins again.
Remember, the right offers no future whatsoever; + returning their selectively-edited version of the past is impossible. Young Britain knows this; + only left ideas offer them any way forward that isn't gruel or delusion.
So enough fussing about when it "should have" happened, just make it happen.
I can sympathise with your position, for sure. I do understand the ‘better late than never’ idea - but my concern is that if these people had the political nous to fight from the left then they would’ve done it years ago. The fact that it’s taken them till now to do what should’ve been obvious tells me that they simply don’t have the political intelligence to lead.
Also, I do in fact think it really is too late. Even if there is a viable socialist option at the next election we have seen how MSM propaganda and smear tactics can be effective. And if that doesn’t work, there’s always just vote rigging.
So, much as I would like to have some hope, I am finding it increasingly harder to have such hope…
"Shoulda, woulda, coulda" is absolutely useless at this point as a critique.
It is in no way too late; in fact, it's right on time. It all depends on how much you want it, and how hard folks work toward it.
Make your own hope.
There's a good Hearst piece on Doubledown which I imagine you have seen; if not, give it a whirl.
Very good 👍
Starrmer IS far right.
The Far Right is always in the business of defending the "free" market, hence their support from billionaires. Starmer is a neoliberal through and through and completely signed up to this.
SIR Keir is the man who (very intentionally) hijacked the Labour Party, to (very intentionally) turn it into a second Tory Party.
SIR Keir is the man who pledged to funnel British taxpayers' money into the pockets of Italian Fascists, for the express purpose of violent racism... and pledged to "learn" how to be the same as those Fascists.
What on Earth makes you think he would recoil, AT ALL, from being "The man who goes down in history for having handed power to an extreme-right coalition of the Tories and Faragists at the next general election," let alone consider that outcome a "danger?"
The coup has already happened.
On both sides of the Atlantic.
FELICES STAFMES DEBERIA
Obvious and depressing in equal measure to those on the political left. More importantly is the betrayal of ordinary citizens that were hoping against hope that Starmer and the PLP would deliver for the those who voted them in. An illusion of choice is no choice at all.