If you left England then you are no more entitled to comment upon English politics than "ex pat's " who live in Benidorm or Bergerac but bang on about how great Brexit really is. Focus on your new country instead and leave the dissection of Reform's incongruence on those of of us who pay UK taxes and live with the subnormal mentally challenged states of fellow citizens.
You’re entitled to comment on Martian politics if you want - that’s how freedom of speech works. If you’ve left the UK, you might well have relatives who still live there who depend on the NHS or the education system or various benefits. Should we just tell them to go fuck themselves? Sorry, don’t live there anymore, not my problem.
Well thanks for your condescending judgements about my ‘entitlements’ but I am perfectly entitled since I still have voting rights in the uk and for your information I’m not an expat but an immigrant in a country who has welcomed me and whose language I have adopted and joined because of brexit which I did not vote for and was the reason I left
That's really unfair to Neanderthals. Also, while the people running Reform are "grifters", those who voted them in are mostly people afraid for where their next meal is coming from, When everyone else (Conservatives and Labour) are offering more of what put them in such dire straights, they'll gravitate to those who offer solutions and scapegoats even when offered by pathological liars.
Er, no, not entirely. Some of those who vote Reform are frightened and easily manipulated, however others are middle class and worried about the loss of their privileges. Of course neither are going to be helped by Reform, who are a party working for Libertarian billionaires whilst hiding behind scare tactics and scapegoating, and what they really offer is, as you rightly say, more of the same, only on steroids. Farage even said it: "Thatcherism on steroids".
You are right about the middle class, so it's not just those worrying about where their next meal comes from. However, many in the middle class are just as worried that if the Conservatives and Labour continue their catering to the corporate sector and the rich, they will lose their status and be worried about where their next meal comes from. Fear is a powerful force and Reform is excellent at harnassing its power while Conservatives and Labour feed the beast. Make no mistake, Conservatives, Labour, and Reform have the same goal - a consistent move to the corporate state (or, as Mussolini called it, Fascism). Thatcherism is one of the most important tools in achieving that goal - there is no society, only families - when what she meant for the many, is there is no society, there is only you. Individualism has been one of the most effective means of capitalisms survival. I think we agree on the key points, but let's not write off the many just because they vote against their own best interests; at this time they have no leadership on their side.
Sorry, I meant to add that the privileges of the middle class were fought for by the working class. So I don't think of most of what the middle class has as a privilege, I think of it as a right (housing, food, leisure time, etc.) that everyone should have. There are enough resources to share if the few don't hoard more than they need. There's a saying we don't hear much anymore: "To each according to their needs, from each according to their ability." That sounds like a good election slogan.
Agree absolutely, except with your last sentence! We were in fact offered an alternative with Jeremy Corbyn. Yes, I know he is rather reminiscent of "an irritable old schoolmaster", as someone once described him, but Labour at that time were offering an alternative to neoliberalism. Instead, the working and middle classes chose Boris Johnson....
I stand corrected about never having been offered a chance. I think Labour under Corbyn would have been better but clearly the right-wing had taken control of the party's operation even under Corbyn. Had Labour won with Corbyn as leader, the right-wing would have stymied every opportunity to empower the many so, unless Corbyn was willing to call his supporters to the streets, his win would have been another left-wing disappointment. (Corbyn may have called the many out but we'll never know.) The real problem with choice is that the right-wing propaganda has been so effective that working class people believe the lies capitalism has told them, even that rich people worked hard for their money. I think Corbyn was beginning to expose those lies and connect with people but the strength of the sabotage within the Labour Party was just to much. Boris Johnson and the Conservatives didn't win that election, the Labour right-wing deliberately and calculatingly lost the election in order to ensure a left-wing movement, empowerment of the many, would never come about.
Let’s just hope that now they are in charge they will show themselves up for what they are. They can no longer talk the talk but start to do some walking.
The flag business just shows how ignorant they are of how the country, they claim to be proud of, actually works. Union Jack? All mouth n trousers. lol
I am against suppressing local history. I have no emotional investment in pride/trans flags. As someone who supported my gay brothers and sisters in the 70s and 80s, I think the trans thing is overstated.
The aim of the council is to come together and produce a united policy from the public representation available, not sit there waving their individual flags. Let flags away from the Council offices show the bias of those displaying them.
For years now I have been searching for a flag for cowards. But Alas (and here I give thanks to AI)
There isn't a traditionally recognized "Patron Saint of Cowards" in the Catholic Church or other Christian traditions. The concept of a patron saint is generally associated with individuals who exemplify virtues and inspire others towards those qualities. "Cowardice" is typically seen as the opposite of courage, so a saint associated with it would be counterintuitive.
However, some individuals have been described as "patron saints" or "patronesses" in a more metaphorical or satirical sense, often in humorous contexts. For example, some online forums have jokingly referred to "Saint Skittish" as the patron of cowards.
It's important to note that the term "coward" is often used negatively and can be seen as a judgmental label. In many cultures and religions, the emphasis is on overcoming fear and acting with courage, even in the face of adversity.
Instead of a patron saint of cowards, many individuals find inspiration and guidance in saints who are known for their courage, resilience, and willingness to stand up for their beliefs. These include saints like:
St. Michael the Archangel:
A powerful figure known for his battles with evil and his steadfast faith.
St. Sebastian:
A Roman soldier who was tortured and martyred for his faith, known for his courage in the face of death.
St. Patrick:
The patron saint of Ireland, known for his missionary work and his unwavering faith.
St. Teresa of Avila:
A Spanish mystic known for her courage in challenging the Catholic Church's practices of her time.
St. Teresa of Lisieux:
A French Carmelite nun known for her "Little Way" of seeking holiness through simple acts of kindness and courage.
Ultimately, the focus is on striving for virtue and overcoming fear rather than seeking patronage for weakness or cowardice.
If you left England then you are no more entitled to comment upon English politics than "ex pat's " who live in Benidorm or Bergerac but bang on about how great Brexit really is. Focus on your new country instead and leave the dissection of Reform's incongruence on those of of us who pay UK taxes and live with the subnormal mentally challenged states of fellow citizens.
You’re entitled to comment on Martian politics if you want - that’s how freedom of speech works. If you’ve left the UK, you might well have relatives who still live there who depend on the NHS or the education system or various benefits. Should we just tell them to go fuck themselves? Sorry, don’t live there anymore, not my problem.
Well thanks for your condescending judgements about my ‘entitlements’ but I am perfectly entitled since I still have voting rights in the uk and for your information I’m not an expat but an immigrant in a country who has welcomed me and whose language I have adopted and joined because of brexit which I did not vote for and was the reason I left
That's really unfair to Neanderthals. Also, while the people running Reform are "grifters", those who voted them in are mostly people afraid for where their next meal is coming from, When everyone else (Conservatives and Labour) are offering more of what put them in such dire straights, they'll gravitate to those who offer solutions and scapegoats even when offered by pathological liars.
So sad but you’re right
Er, no, not entirely. Some of those who vote Reform are frightened and easily manipulated, however others are middle class and worried about the loss of their privileges. Of course neither are going to be helped by Reform, who are a party working for Libertarian billionaires whilst hiding behind scare tactics and scapegoating, and what they really offer is, as you rightly say, more of the same, only on steroids. Farage even said it: "Thatcherism on steroids".
You are right about the middle class, so it's not just those worrying about where their next meal comes from. However, many in the middle class are just as worried that if the Conservatives and Labour continue their catering to the corporate sector and the rich, they will lose their status and be worried about where their next meal comes from. Fear is a powerful force and Reform is excellent at harnassing its power while Conservatives and Labour feed the beast. Make no mistake, Conservatives, Labour, and Reform have the same goal - a consistent move to the corporate state (or, as Mussolini called it, Fascism). Thatcherism is one of the most important tools in achieving that goal - there is no society, only families - when what she meant for the many, is there is no society, there is only you. Individualism has been one of the most effective means of capitalisms survival. I think we agree on the key points, but let's not write off the many just because they vote against their own best interests; at this time they have no leadership on their side.
Sorry, I meant to add that the privileges of the middle class were fought for by the working class. So I don't think of most of what the middle class has as a privilege, I think of it as a right (housing, food, leisure time, etc.) that everyone should have. There are enough resources to share if the few don't hoard more than they need. There's a saying we don't hear much anymore: "To each according to their needs, from each according to their ability." That sounds like a good election slogan.
Agree absolutely, except with your last sentence! We were in fact offered an alternative with Jeremy Corbyn. Yes, I know he is rather reminiscent of "an irritable old schoolmaster", as someone once described him, but Labour at that time were offering an alternative to neoliberalism. Instead, the working and middle classes chose Boris Johnson....
I stand corrected about never having been offered a chance. I think Labour under Corbyn would have been better but clearly the right-wing had taken control of the party's operation even under Corbyn. Had Labour won with Corbyn as leader, the right-wing would have stymied every opportunity to empower the many so, unless Corbyn was willing to call his supporters to the streets, his win would have been another left-wing disappointment. (Corbyn may have called the many out but we'll never know.) The real problem with choice is that the right-wing propaganda has been so effective that working class people believe the lies capitalism has told them, even that rich people worked hard for their money. I think Corbyn was beginning to expose those lies and connect with people but the strength of the sabotage within the Labour Party was just to much. Boris Johnson and the Conservatives didn't win that election, the Labour right-wing deliberately and calculatingly lost the election in order to ensure a left-wing movement, empowerment of the many, would never come about.
Exactly. People believe the crap the RW media feeds them, that's always the problem.
Heil Hitler .........
Got an air of 1930s Germany for sure...
Let’s just hope that now they are in charge they will show themselves up for what they are. They can no longer talk the talk but start to do some walking.
The flag business just shows how ignorant they are of how the country, they claim to be proud of, actually works. Union Jack? All mouth n trousers. lol
Tbh, I don't think East Yorkshire council was up for election this time round
I am against suppressing local history. I have no emotional investment in pride/trans flags. As someone who supported my gay brothers and sisters in the 70s and 80s, I think the trans thing is overstated.
The aim of the council is to come together and produce a united policy from the public representation available, not sit there waving their individual flags. Let flags away from the Council offices show the bias of those displaying them.
For years now I have been searching for a flag for cowards. But Alas (and here I give thanks to AI)
There isn't a traditionally recognized "Patron Saint of Cowards" in the Catholic Church or other Christian traditions. The concept of a patron saint is generally associated with individuals who exemplify virtues and inspire others towards those qualities. "Cowardice" is typically seen as the opposite of courage, so a saint associated with it would be counterintuitive.
However, some individuals have been described as "patron saints" or "patronesses" in a more metaphorical or satirical sense, often in humorous contexts. For example, some online forums have jokingly referred to "Saint Skittish" as the patron of cowards.
It's important to note that the term "coward" is often used negatively and can be seen as a judgmental label. In many cultures and religions, the emphasis is on overcoming fear and acting with courage, even in the face of adversity.
Instead of a patron saint of cowards, many individuals find inspiration and guidance in saints who are known for their courage, resilience, and willingness to stand up for their beliefs. These include saints like:
St. Michael the Archangel:
A powerful figure known for his battles with evil and his steadfast faith.
St. Sebastian:
A Roman soldier who was tortured and martyred for his faith, known for his courage in the face of death.
St. Patrick:
The patron saint of Ireland, known for his missionary work and his unwavering faith.
St. Teresa of Avila:
A Spanish mystic known for her courage in challenging the Catholic Church's practices of her time.
St. Teresa of Lisieux:
A French Carmelite nun known for her "Little Way" of seeking holiness through simple acts of kindness and courage.
Ultimately, the focus is on striving for virtue and overcoming fear rather than seeking patronage for weakness or cowardice.