Starmer pushed the Overton window so closed that there is barely a chink of light.
The media has acted as a PR department for reform ignoring that they are surely educated enough to know about the bandwagon effect in their hunger for clicks.
Most ppl aren’t engaged enough with uk politics to read beyond the headlines and photos of Farages grinning face.
Also I suspect that they are desperate enough for change that they will vote for anyone that ends business as usual. This later point I can sort of understand, as I’ve thought for some years now that system change won’t come through evolution but as a result of it crashing and burning.
Some people do not seem to realise that Farage and Reform are the Tories on steroids, although I think others hope that the leopards will eat other people's faces, and will be unpleasantly surprised, as in Trump's America. And there are committed Libertarians and Fascists among them, too. A lot of the blame for the ignorance has to go to the Right wing, billionaire-owned mainstream media, who of course have no intention of explaining who Reform really are.
What puzzles me is why Starmer handed the constituency of Clacton on a plate to Farage? Previously Farage had lost EIGHT elections [six general elections and two by-elections]. The Labour candidate in Clacton, Jovan Owusu-Nepaul, was massively popular but the Labour Party withdrew support for him and he was told to stop campaigning in Clacton - their own candidate! Rumour has it that Starmer was jealous of his popularity - but that has to be bullshit. Starmer WANTED to give Farage a clear run to win -- why? 🤔😡
My mother-in-law vote Leave to “teach Cameron a lesson”. She’s dead now, and he’s whistling all the way to bank. I wonder what lesson he learned from that.
Others have noted that Farage has the same appeal as Trump (burn it all down). So why doesn't Starmer try a different approach? By making even a token gesture to "shake things up" surely he would gain confidence. And it's not like Labour shouldn't have their own ideas about fixing austerity and/or neoliberalism. What binds Starmer to the status quo?
The Tories were always the favoured party of the rich and powerful. Now they can’t make a dent on the polls and have lost power so the rich have switched their allegiance to the party of governance, Labour. Corruption is a problem in the press to. This Labour Party can’t hold on because they’re losing their base. He has no base among Tory voters. Right wing voters have three parties to choose from. Reform, Conservative or LibDem. So Starmer has to compete with all three. Traditional Tories who are appalled by Farage will probably choose the LibDems. If they vote tactically they’ll vote Labour then. But Starmer still needs the Labour base. We’re finding out fairly quickly that Starmer isn’t what he was supposed to be. The disability policy is a red line for any Labour Party. It certainly was for me. Those singing his praises now are more likely to be Liberals than Left. So now you have two ways of defining the “Left”. “Hard Left” or “Centre Left”. The implication being that those on the hard left are extremists and those on the “centre left” are more democratic and open minded. But I believe now these are more like euphemisms. If you criticise Starmer’s policies you can guess which category you get put in. The problem that concerns me is that Left wing voters will end up without any representation.
Unfortunately it seems like our current political system is a 'tag team', party one sets policies into motion that will take say 12 years to actually happen, then they sit out 8 years of the other party maintaining the status quo, failing on overturn any of the last party's unpopular moves because they also benefit whilst in power, then hand back the baton. Equally, it seems like the population at large forgets how desperate they were to get rid of the last lot after eight years and vote the others back again "because they must be better than these guys". The UK needs to stop with this archaic foolishness. The so-called 'opposition' only make the right noises when they're not in power then suddenly forget all about it when they're back in power. Political parties need to be reined in, cabinet members should stand as independent candidates and the public should vote each one in. A cabinet where all members are there purely due to part allegiance is bad. We need a cabinet that is made up of members from across the board. It might be harder to find consensus but I'm prepared to bet this crisp ×checks pockets× £5 note that the actual decisions made will be better.
They're happy to destroy their own country if it means immigrants won't get to use it.
Exactly. Pathetic beyond belief.
NF is nothing more than a pound shop Mosley. It's 2025 people, we can do better than these corrupt, devisive clowns.
Starmer pushed the Overton window so closed that there is barely a chink of light.
The media has acted as a PR department for reform ignoring that they are surely educated enough to know about the bandwagon effect in their hunger for clicks.
Most ppl aren’t engaged enough with uk politics to read beyond the headlines and photos of Farages grinning face.
Also I suspect that they are desperate enough for change that they will vote for anyone that ends business as usual. This later point I can sort of understand, as I’ve thought for some years now that system change won’t come through evolution but as a result of it crashing and burning.
Some people do not seem to realise that Farage and Reform are the Tories on steroids, although I think others hope that the leopards will eat other people's faces, and will be unpleasantly surprised, as in Trump's America. And there are committed Libertarians and Fascists among them, too. A lot of the blame for the ignorance has to go to the Right wing, billionaire-owned mainstream media, who of course have no intention of explaining who Reform really are.
What puzzles me is why Starmer handed the constituency of Clacton on a plate to Farage? Previously Farage had lost EIGHT elections [six general elections and two by-elections]. The Labour candidate in Clacton, Jovan Owusu-Nepaul, was massively popular but the Labour Party withdrew support for him and he was told to stop campaigning in Clacton - their own candidate! Rumour has it that Starmer was jealous of his popularity - but that has to be bullshit. Starmer WANTED to give Farage a clear run to win -- why? 🤔😡
My mother-in-law vote Leave to “teach Cameron a lesson”. She’s dead now, and he’s whistling all the way to bank. I wonder what lesson he learned from that.
Others have noted that Farage has the same appeal as Trump (burn it all down). So why doesn't Starmer try a different approach? By making even a token gesture to "shake things up" surely he would gain confidence. And it's not like Labour shouldn't have their own ideas about fixing austerity and/or neoliberalism. What binds Starmer to the status quo?
The Tories were always the favoured party of the rich and powerful. Now they can’t make a dent on the polls and have lost power so the rich have switched their allegiance to the party of governance, Labour. Corruption is a problem in the press to. This Labour Party can’t hold on because they’re losing their base. He has no base among Tory voters. Right wing voters have three parties to choose from. Reform, Conservative or LibDem. So Starmer has to compete with all three. Traditional Tories who are appalled by Farage will probably choose the LibDems. If they vote tactically they’ll vote Labour then. But Starmer still needs the Labour base. We’re finding out fairly quickly that Starmer isn’t what he was supposed to be. The disability policy is a red line for any Labour Party. It certainly was for me. Those singing his praises now are more likely to be Liberals than Left. So now you have two ways of defining the “Left”. “Hard Left” or “Centre Left”. The implication being that those on the hard left are extremists and those on the “centre left” are more democratic and open minded. But I believe now these are more like euphemisms. If you criticise Starmer’s policies you can guess which category you get put in. The problem that concerns me is that Left wing voters will end up without any representation.
Brexit juice and a spot of tea?
Unfortunately it seems like our current political system is a 'tag team', party one sets policies into motion that will take say 12 years to actually happen, then they sit out 8 years of the other party maintaining the status quo, failing on overturn any of the last party's unpopular moves because they also benefit whilst in power, then hand back the baton. Equally, it seems like the population at large forgets how desperate they were to get rid of the last lot after eight years and vote the others back again "because they must be better than these guys". The UK needs to stop with this archaic foolishness. The so-called 'opposition' only make the right noises when they're not in power then suddenly forget all about it when they're back in power. Political parties need to be reined in, cabinet members should stand as independent candidates and the public should vote each one in. A cabinet where all members are there purely due to part allegiance is bad. We need a cabinet that is made up of members from across the board. It might be harder to find consensus but I'm prepared to bet this crisp ×checks pockets× £5 note that the actual decisions made will be better.