Disillusion and antipathy towards Keir Starmer's government continues to grow, and it's hardly surprising given his determination to piss almost everyone off
To destroy Labour and thus end any hope of positive change for the foreseeable future as it takes years to build a political party to the point where they have any chance of even getting a seat in parliament, let alone winning power.
Yeah, but why do that at the same time as trashing the Conservative party as hard as it did to itself in the last year or two?
My conspiracy theorist hat is not so much destroy, as "try to occupy the ground the Conservatives did", working on the theory that the electoral position was 'most electable' for a long time, and there's no way in hell the Tories will move _left_ so they'll be able to take centrist, mild right and ... all the left leaning will have not much choice but to vote 'lesser evil' again. And again.
My personal opinion is that we (ie western countries) are being pushed to the right by the wealthy who are driving this through their influence over the media, their ability to ‘buy’ politicians and policies, etc. Here in the U.K. Reform will either merge with the Tories or do some kind of deal before the next GE to ensure a very right wing govt. The electorate is to be left in no doubt that any chance of rolling back capitalism (and hence reversing privatisation, austerity, etc) is not going to happen. We can vote only for red neoliberalism and capitalism or the blue version.
I’ve been saying for quite a while now (at least 4 years) that Sir Starmer (the clues were there all along) has been put in place by the establishment to destroy Labour. He’s doing a fine job!!
Like you, I spotted him as a wrong 'un too. When he became leader of the party, I cancelled my membership. Considering the deafening silence of the so-called left wing of the party and red becoming the new blue, it was definitely one of my better decisions.
Best I've got so far is the optimistic take that they're getting the pain out the way early.
I mean, we all know full well that the electorate collectively has a short memory in general, so things in the first year of the term gets the double whammy of 'new government honeymoon period' and also 'hopefully everyone will have forgotten in 4 years time'.
So with that in mind, it may actually be sensible to make things painful now, whilst it can still be blamed on the last government with a somewhat straight face, because then there's more room for things to 'improve' (back to where they were) in a year or two.
So I'm still on the fence a bit, as to whether this is deliberate tories in red ties wrecking, just incompetence, or somewhat devious strategic thinking.
I'm still inclined to give a bit of a grace period for the first ... oh. year or so, and see how things pan out. Not least because ... well, it's not like any of us can do much about it anyway.
But I also won't be forgetting. I may forgive them their nonsense if it seems to have actually delivered (and not just relief that the beatings have stopped again).
Why make it painful for the people you care about at any time? There is no need for it, he really can tax the rich. He’s made it clear who and what he is, any change before another election would be the same as his past promises,”; lies.
I am a socialist. The Labour Party was NEVER a socialist party. So I am NOT disappointed Starmer has pulled Labour even further right. We need to be a socialist party; here is one good example they have in Belgium: https://theleftlane2024.substack.com/p/today-is-a-good-day-for-a-good-news Let's get started ASAP. Alan Story, THE LEFT LANE.
You’re right Alan, that Labour (social democrats) are not socialists and will always move to the right (even to the point of supporting fascists) when threatened with a socialist movement. Perhaps that is Starmer’s mandate - pull the party back from where Corbyn was leading it. Winning against the Tories is secondary to ensuring socialism is not on the agenda. I’d guess Starmer attacked the Conservatives so much for: 1) the fact they were so incompetent even at preserving capitalism, and 2) he was worried that incompetence might drive them to a Corbyn style party as it did in 2017 and 2029. Starmer is probably a dangerous ideologue, more interested in preserving capitalism (even as fascism), than in the politics of tomfoolery the Conservatives engaged in. Thus, more dangerous than them. He is paving the way for fascism and he knows it.
If it’s any consolation the same thing is happening here in Australia with our Labor government. Not quite implementing austerity but not doing what the people want. What we have in common is Murdoch media.
There is an agenda to continually lower the expectations of the people towards government as the elites tire of ‘democracy’ and move towards technocratic rule. You have to up the ante, they don’t just blunder into these things, get with it!
It helps to distract front the fundamentals and the removal of cold weather payments is a classic example. People rage about that (whilst doing NOTHING) instead of the top to bottom decimation of our entire economy and the destruction of Europe’s economy by design. I repeat, by design.
Why the author has to shoehorn in baseless talk of transphobia and homophobia is beyond me. Transphobia has been one of the biggest divide and rule plays of them all. ‘Transphobia’ is being stoked deliberately. People couldn’t care less 20 years ago. Couldn’t. Care. Less. Now we have this Orwellian bs… you know what I mean. People don’t want it. They will never want it. Adults who are obsessed with children’s sexuality and erasing the concept of women are creeps or idiots or both.
‘They’ have an agenda and these controversies are strategies of mind control. Starmer’s job isn’t to appeal to anyone. His job is to work for the Zionists, US empire etc. He’ll be very richly rewarded. He doesn’t care and he is probably compromised.
I agree with your analysis, but it still leaves the question why? Who stands to gain from this scenario?
To destroy Labour and thus end any hope of positive change for the foreseeable future as it takes years to build a political party to the point where they have any chance of even getting a seat in parliament, let alone winning power.
Yeah, but why do that at the same time as trashing the Conservative party as hard as it did to itself in the last year or two?
My conspiracy theorist hat is not so much destroy, as "try to occupy the ground the Conservatives did", working on the theory that the electoral position was 'most electable' for a long time, and there's no way in hell the Tories will move _left_ so they'll be able to take centrist, mild right and ... all the left leaning will have not much choice but to vote 'lesser evil' again. And again.
My personal opinion is that we (ie western countries) are being pushed to the right by the wealthy who are driving this through their influence over the media, their ability to ‘buy’ politicians and policies, etc. Here in the U.K. Reform will either merge with the Tories or do some kind of deal before the next GE to ensure a very right wing govt. The electorate is to be left in no doubt that any chance of rolling back capitalism (and hence reversing privatisation, austerity, etc) is not going to happen. We can vote only for red neoliberalism and capitalism or the blue version.
His brief is to destroy the Labour Party.
I’ve been saying for quite a while now (at least 4 years) that Sir Starmer (the clues were there all along) has been put in place by the establishment to destroy Labour. He’s doing a fine job!!
Like you, I spotted him as a wrong 'un too. When he became leader of the party, I cancelled my membership. Considering the deafening silence of the so-called left wing of the party and red becoming the new blue, it was definitely one of my better decisions.
Best I've got so far is the optimistic take that they're getting the pain out the way early.
I mean, we all know full well that the electorate collectively has a short memory in general, so things in the first year of the term gets the double whammy of 'new government honeymoon period' and also 'hopefully everyone will have forgotten in 4 years time'.
So with that in mind, it may actually be sensible to make things painful now, whilst it can still be blamed on the last government with a somewhat straight face, because then there's more room for things to 'improve' (back to where they were) in a year or two.
So I'm still on the fence a bit, as to whether this is deliberate tories in red ties wrecking, just incompetence, or somewhat devious strategic thinking.
I'm still inclined to give a bit of a grace period for the first ... oh. year or so, and see how things pan out. Not least because ... well, it's not like any of us can do much about it anyway.
But I also won't be forgetting. I may forgive them their nonsense if it seems to have actually delivered (and not just relief that the beatings have stopped again).
Why make it painful for the people you care about at any time? There is no need for it, he really can tax the rich. He’s made it clear who and what he is, any change before another election would be the same as his past promises,”; lies.
I am a socialist. The Labour Party was NEVER a socialist party. So I am NOT disappointed Starmer has pulled Labour even further right. We need to be a socialist party; here is one good example they have in Belgium: https://theleftlane2024.substack.com/p/today-is-a-good-day-for-a-good-news Let's get started ASAP. Alan Story, THE LEFT LANE.
You’re right Alan, that Labour (social democrats) are not socialists and will always move to the right (even to the point of supporting fascists) when threatened with a socialist movement. Perhaps that is Starmer’s mandate - pull the party back from where Corbyn was leading it. Winning against the Tories is secondary to ensuring socialism is not on the agenda. I’d guess Starmer attacked the Conservatives so much for: 1) the fact they were so incompetent even at preserving capitalism, and 2) he was worried that incompetence might drive them to a Corbyn style party as it did in 2017 and 2029. Starmer is probably a dangerous ideologue, more interested in preserving capitalism (even as fascism), than in the politics of tomfoolery the Conservatives engaged in. Thus, more dangerous than them. He is paving the way for fascism and he knows it.
“2017 and 2019” !!!
I agree Ron. And collaborating with Farage ( as I wrote yesterday: https://theleftlane2024.substack.com/p/starmer-doesnt-challenge-the-rise-b00 )
If it’s any consolation the same thing is happening here in Australia with our Labor government. Not quite implementing austerity but not doing what the people want. What we have in common is Murdoch media.
Labour needs to dump him and replace him with a socialist. Simple, in theory.
There is an agenda to continually lower the expectations of the people towards government as the elites tire of ‘democracy’ and move towards technocratic rule. You have to up the ante, they don’t just blunder into these things, get with it!
It helps to distract front the fundamentals and the removal of cold weather payments is a classic example. People rage about that (whilst doing NOTHING) instead of the top to bottom decimation of our entire economy and the destruction of Europe’s economy by design. I repeat, by design.
Why the author has to shoehorn in baseless talk of transphobia and homophobia is beyond me. Transphobia has been one of the biggest divide and rule plays of them all. ‘Transphobia’ is being stoked deliberately. People couldn’t care less 20 years ago. Couldn’t. Care. Less. Now we have this Orwellian bs… you know what I mean. People don’t want it. They will never want it. Adults who are obsessed with children’s sexuality and erasing the concept of women are creeps or idiots or both.
‘They’ have an agenda and these controversies are strategies of mind control. Starmer’s job isn’t to appeal to anyone. His job is to work for the Zionists, US empire etc. He’ll be very richly rewarded. He doesn’t care and he is probably compromised.